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Showing posts with label Doug Stanhope. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Doug Stanhope. Show all posts

Friday, July 22, 2011

CD/DVD Giveaway - Doug Stanhope, Oslo: Burning the Bridge to Nowhere

How about the first ever What's So Funny? blog merchandise give-away? Sounds like a plan. I know you're all big fans of Doug Stanhope, as well you should be. I've got a copy of his latest CD/DVD, Oslo: Burning the Bridge to Nowhere [Roadrunner Comedy] to give to one lucky, and skilled, reader. As the yellow sticker on it says, it features over 75 minutes of new material recorded live in Oslo (that'd be in Norway) and the DVD includes the full performance plus bonus material.

But I can't just open this up to the first responder. We need some sort of skill-testing question. Let's see... I don't want to make it too easy. Then again, it shouldn't be ridiculously hard so that only diehard fans who'll already buy the product will win. How about just time-consuming? Maybe that's the ticket. I'll ask ten questions and whoever gets the most right by Monday, July 25 at 10 a.m. PST wins. In the case of a tie, whoever answered first will win. I'll post the winner's name here on Monday then mail the package out to wherever you are in the world. How's that for a deal? So don't forget to include your mailing address with your answers to wsf1027fm AT yahoo DOT ca. And yes, residents of Quebec are eligible. Okay, here we go:
1. Doug recently recorded his latest CD in what U.S. city?
2. What's So Funny? included a half-hour phone interview with Doug. What comic took up the other half of the show?
3. On his album Something To Take The Edge Off, Doug says every vice is a punishment in itself. What is his example of the punishment of watching too much porno?
4. Besides his hidden camera series on Fox, Doug hosted (or co-hosted) two other projects he's embarrassed by. Name them.
5. What's Doug's middle name?
6. Doug created a website to raise money so what famous pregnant woman could get an abortion?
7. Which political party is Doug most closely aligned with?
8. Who did Doug endorse for president of the U.S. in 2008?
9. What was notable about Doug's version of the joke told in The Aristocrats?
10. Who finished second to Doug in the 1995 San Francisco International Comedy Competition?
There you go. Have at 'er. I know, it's a lot for just one CD/DVD but you want to feel you earned it, right? Okay, maybe it's ridiculously hard but remember you don't have to answer them all correct if nobody else does; you just have to answer more of them correct than anyone else, or at least get your answers in more quickly.

Monday, August 9, 2010

Comedy's newest whipping boy

Why the constant drama, comedy?

It seems stand-up comedy needs a whipping boy. One day it's Dane Cook, another day it's Carlos Mencia. Today (the last few weeks, anyway) it's Kyle Cease. It started with Doug Stanhope's post lambasting comedy classes in general and Cease's Stand-up Boot Camp in particular.

I have no horse in this race since I have no strong opinion on comedy classes. I tend to think you can't teach funny, but having never been to a comedy class, I don't know if that's what they're trying to do. You can't teach someone to be a good painter or jazz musician, but you can give him the tools if he has a modicum of innate talent to begin with. (And please substitute 'her' and 'she' where applicable.)

Hearing comics railing about the issue is funny. But not in a ha-ha way. It sounds, from an outsider's perspective, a bit like they want us all to know they're truly special and what they do can't possibly be taught. So don't even bother. Yes, I know, they're not really saying that, but that's part of it. They're also saying any information you can get in a class, you can get for free from your fellow comics so a class is nothing but a cash grab. So be it. But isn't any kind of class a cash grab? You can pay thousands of dollars to hear a famous screenwriter give a seminar, and lots of people do. Will any of them go on to become famous screenwriters? Maybe a tiny percentage of them, but they'd probably excel without the class, too.

People attend classes and seminars for whatever reason. Some just need a kick-start. Some use it for networking. Who knows? Who cares!

But this Boot Camp costs three thousand bucks, they scream! It's a rip-off! Hey, caveat emptor, baby. If someone's willing to pay it, it's obviously worth it to them.

Who none of the critics are slamming is Louie Anderson. I don't understand that. Why does he get a free pass? Apparently he's well respected for his years in the business even though in my opinion he has never been funny. And I can't see what 30-year advice he can give that would be relevant to today's comedy wannabes. Then again, as I say, I haven't attended the boot camp so I can't be sure.

Another free pass is given to Eddie Brill, who does these kinds of classes all over the place. Maybe the particulars are different. I did sit in on one of Eddie's classes once and it looked great. Comics would perform for each other and critique each other's act, which I think is useful. But Eddie's words of advice held more sway. Now, Eddie is a peach of a guy who everyone loves. Plus he is the gatekeeper to the Holy Grail that is the Late Show with David Letterman and comedians would no doubt be wary of biting that opportunity in the butt.

If it isn't completely obvious, let me state that I don't think Eddie Brill should be slagged for his classes, just as I don't think Kyle Cease should be. I just think comics should be consistent and honest. If it's classes they don't like, you can't pick and choose. And, not that it's relevant, but Doug Stanhope is another peach of a guy (seriously!) and one of my favourite comics on Earth.

I heard Kyle on the Comedy and Everything Else podcast. He was way more serious than he was the two times on What's So Funny? but he had a bigger point to make. He was defending himself. He found himself a pariah in the only community he's been a part of for 20 years. Still, I thought he wasn't as serious as some are saying. He made lots of jokes but in a completely dry way. I had no problem with Jimmy Dore's interviewing technique, either. Some thought he was confrontational and constantly interrupting, but I thought he was respectful and interrupted no more than he does on any other episode (which, granted, is a lot but that's part of his charm).

As I mentioned, Kyle was on our program twice. The second one is lost but one remains and you can hear it on iTunes. Or right here, if you'd rather. It's a completely different Kyle Cease than you'll hear on Comedy and Everything Else. He's animated and constantly joking. Then again, it was in 2005 and he wasn't yet the outcast he's become.


Monday, July 26, 2010

More Stanhope ramblings

A friend wrote me today asking if I really believed the moon landing was a hoax (in reference to the Matt Billon bit in the post below). Of course I don't think it was a hoax. But I still liked Billon's take on it (whether he truly believes it's a hoax or not). I've never felt the need to agree with a comic in order to find him funny. I thought the material was well-researched (there was plenty to chew on), well-delivered with conviction, and – bottom line – really funny. The fact I disagree with the premise and conclusion is immaterial.

Which brings us back to Doug Stanhope. I remembered a couple other bits he did last night. And similarly I disagree with his take, but that doesn't stop them from being killer jokes. He thought a great idea would be to register himself as a sex offender just so his friends wouldn't bring their annoying kids over to his place. I happen to like children (as a general rule), but that's just a great, great line whether you agree with him or not. He delivers it with such earnest contempt that you totally buy it, too. I happen to believe Stanhope isn't nearly the curmudgeon he lets on to be. First off, he's the nicest guy. There are no airs about him. And one hint I had was when I was interviewing him a couple weeks ago. He was entertaining his nephew and niece. Occasionally they'd come into the room and interrupt him and he treated them like anyone would treat kids. He sounds like he'd even make a good father. I think he doesn't like kids in principle (and who does, really?) but in reality he's fine with them.

Stanhope makes you think. Not in an Arsenio Hall "things that make you go hmm" kind of way, but gets you thinking about all sorts of stuff. The other chunk of material I remembered after the fact was his take on artists. He lives in a little town of 6,000, many of whom are artists. Stanhope is an artist. Yet he's come to the realization that he hates artists. And hates art. Again, he's always finding a new way to surprise, just when you think you know a guy. And whether I agree with the sentiment or not, he makes a great case against art and wraps it up in the perfect analogy. He talked about hearing an interview with Jello Biafra talking about his art and what he wanted to say in song, yada yada yada. Then they played a clip of the Dead Kennedys and it was practically unintelligible. Stanhope said if you've got something to say, just say it. Tone it down a little, make it more succinct and just say it. If the message is that important, don't make it harder to understand by flowering it up through art – just say it. Then the analogy: "I've got the cure for cancer here in this Rubik's Cube."

Doug Stanhope in Vancouver

At one point in a lull in Doug Stanhope's show on Sunday night, people were yelling out favourite bits of his they wanted him to do. They all went over his head. "You're shooting velcro darts at this Alzheimer's brain," he said. (Only he may not have used those exact words. Thanks to my own pre-Alzheimer's brain, not only do I not recall the exact phrasing, but it just took me ten minutes to come up with "Alzheimer's". Seriously. I had to Google "old age memory loss disease" to find it. But he definitely used the words "velcro darts" and "Alzheimer's".)

The point being that Doug and I are about the same age. He's five years younger but has way more wear and tear on his piece of meat – as he calls the human vessel. And while he can't remember every bit he's ever done, I can't remember every bit he did just a few hours ago. I wasn't reviewing the show for the paper so I didn't have to sit scribbling notes. It might have come in handy for this, though. Oh well.

Doug Stanhope wrapped up his Canadian tour in front of a sold-out crowd at The Bourbon in Vancouver on Sunday night. I'd never been to a comedy show at the bar before, and it had all the potential for a night full of drunken interrupting yahoos, but surprisingly it was a great crowd for the most part. Not exactly my people, but hey, who am I to judge? They were there to see Stanhope, but they listened and liked host Rob Mailloux. I liked him, too, especially the line about the decision to keep a child after a rape and how hard that would be: "He has his attacker's eyes."

The guest spot went to Matt Billon, a BC-boy via Alberta and Toronto and now Calgary, who killed. He had an fresh take on why the moon landing was a hoax, painting us a picture of the relative backwards society we lived in 40-odd years ago. Only forty years ago doctors were injecting the urine of women into rabbits and if the rabbit died, the woman was pregnant. He'd juxtapose things like that with a live, smooth broadcast from the face of the moon. Wrap your head around that. In 2010 he saw a live video from Baghdad that was all herky-jerky with a horrible delay. This was a broadcast from Earth! He makes a great point. And a funny one, too.

Then it was Stanhope's turn. This was the fifth time I've seen him. I'm not sure where it stands in relation to the others, but I hate fake comparisons anyway. He was at times hilariously brilliant and at times meandering, but never less than compelling. At one hour and 37 minutes, it wasn't the tightest of shows, but that's part of his charm. He's up there doing shots, forgetting what he was talking about, stumbling across a good line and instructing his girlfriend Bingo to write it down, and abandoning bits midway through because he's suddenly remembered he hasn't finished writing the joke yet. If that were the extent of his time on stage, it'd be a disaster. But thankfully he had a good solid 45-60 minutes of really great stuff, too.

One thing he's a master at is finding new ways to make his fans think. We know he's a libertarian at heart and he believes all drugs should be legal. But instead of going up there and getting everyone to nod in agreement, he finds a way to potentially piss off his supporters. He told us that 600,000 Americans were in jail for drug-related offenses, but that 580,000 of them are probably idiots. His message was that, yes, drugs should be legal, but since they're not, don't go advertising to the world your beliefs. And while you're at it, put on a turtleneck to cover up that swastika tattooed to your neck. Stealth, that's how you've got to do it. At the mention of the tattooed neck, I noticed two inked up people up front clam up, like they were thinking, "Hey, I thought you were one of us?"

He talked about how if you have a group (ethnic or otherwise) to identify with, it makes things so much easier when someone is an asshole to you. You can chalk it up to being a part of this larger group. Whereas people like Doug just have to face the fact that they're not liked or they're looked down upon as individuals, which can hurt so much more. It got me thinking about a conversation I had last week with a Chinese-Canadian friend of mine. She was saying how transparent it was when people would ask her where she's from. She'd get her back up and say, "I'm Canadian." Then they'd say, "No, I mean, where are your parents from? Or their parents?" To her, it was veiled racism. I told her that maybe it was, but she should know that I've been asked the same question and I've also asked the same question to other white friends. That was a revelation to her. When the issue of race (or religion or sexual orientation or whatever it is) is forefront in your mind, of course you're going to perceive most comments through that prism.

He went from there into a King Kong tale of Susan Boyle, painting her as this monster who had the voice of an angel. It was not an attack on her looks at all, even though they were certainly referenced, but on how society treats ugly people. (Maybe the reference should have been Frankenstein's monster since Peter Boyle played it in Young Frankenstein.)

Ten or so years ago when I first saw him, he did this big closer with a sexual act on a beer bottle that culminated in the shaken (and felated) bottle spewing its contents into the air. He's come full circle because now he's got another closer with beer as his prop. But unlike the earlier gag, this one was only used to illustrate a bigger point, it wasn't the crux of the bit. The beer swilling this time was only to punctuate his arguments. He was telling us why he doesn't tackle the big subjects anymore – or at least with the same frequency or emotion. And that's because he's been doing stand-up for twenty years and... nothing's changed! He's made not a bit of difference in the world. Always a master of analogy, he said it's as if he's been talking to starving people saying, "Look, there's a plate of nachos right over there," and they'd all laugh and say, "Yes, there is. Stanhope's right. There is a plate of nachos over there." And no one would eat it.

It's a phenomenon I've noticed over the years. I remember one instance walking out of a Bill Maher concert. He spent a good chunk of time slamming cell phone users and ridiculing them. Everyone was bowled over laughing. Show ends, lights come up, the aisles are slow to clear and everywhere I look someone is on their cell phone. I wanted to scream, "Weren't you listening? Weren't you just laughing in agreement with what he was saying?"

So maybe Stanhope is right. People believe in things in theory or in the larger picture, but don't feel it has any real bearing on their day-to-day lives. I had a philosophy prof who used to smoke in class (which was against the rules even back then). He said he knows smoking is bad for his health, but is this particular cigarette he's holding in his hands the one that's going to give him cancer? No. It's the same kind of intellectual disconnect Stanhope was talking about. Are we hypocrites? Or just human?

I don't know. But I do know it was a really good show. What I can remember of it, anyway.

(Here's the story I wrote on Stanhope for the latest issue of The Georgia Straight.)

Sunday, July 11, 2010

July 11: Doug Stanhope & Neil Hamburger

I've got two of the greats on the show tonight. Separately, though. And on tape (or its digital equivalent). I spoke to Neil Hamburger on June 30 and Doug Stanhope on Friday. Each interview was conducted by phone and each is about 30 minutes long so that'll fill up the hour. Hamburger played the Biltmore yesterday. Unfortunately I was out of town so I missed the show but I'm sure it was a classic, just like the man himself. Stanhope will play The Bourbon on July 25. There's no way I'm missing that show.

The interviews were for print, which is a bit of a different animal. The exchange is slightly different and the types of questions are, too, for some reason. But I think you'll enjoy them. Now I just have to figure out which to play first. I think I'll lead with Stanhope and let Hamburger carry us out. Unless there's an outcry for the other way around in the comments section. I'm easy. And unpredictable. So you'll just have to tune in at 11 p.m. to find out.

Saturday, May 29, 2010

VHS Vault: Young Doug Stanhope

Look what I found traipsing through ye olde video vault. It's a young(er) long-haired Doug Stanhope, complete with heavier Boston accent. But it's still the same Doug that we've grown to know and love. Still in-your-face funny. Not sure of the exact time-line, but it's most likely late 1990s or 2000. The recording quality isn't the best, but it's good enough. I had to clip the beginning and end and one extended bit of laughter in the middle to get it down to size to fit here, but you don't miss any of the words. Methinks you'll enjoy:

Thursday, April 29, 2010

Stanhope cometh

Lying in bed, sick as a dog, is a good time to scour the internet for upcoming acts. I unearthed a good one. Then again, maybe it's common knowledge and no one told me about it. It happens. Did you know (I didn't) that Doug Stanhope has a Canadian tour this summer? And he's playing Vancouver. The last time he played here, it was at Yuk Yuk's and he wasn't at his best. But that happens sometimes. I have full confidence this is a show not to be missed (unless you are a sensitive soul who doesn't like raw comedy). I see he's playing a venue I'm not familiar with: The Bourbon. I have no idea where it is but I've got a couple months to figure it out. Here's his northern itinerary. Gotta admit I'm kinda chuckling that he's bypassing Ontario altogether.

Thursday, August 13, 2009

David Cross

I told you there'd be additions and subtractions to the comedy festival. Turns out the two Matts (Besser and Walsh) won't be able to make it afterall, which is a shame because they're great. And old friend David Cross will be making a return visit.

David Cross and I go way back. I've never interviewed him either over the phone or in person. And I've never met him (except once even before I was writing about comedy regularly I saw him at a Nashville Pussy show at Richard's on Richards and said hi). But I've been a fan ever since I saw him at Bumbershoot years and years ago. I think Patton Oswalt, Laura Kightlinger and Tenacious D were also on the bill. Can't remember who else.

So I've been a big fan. Then two years ago I had to do a festival round-up for the Straight. I took in tons of shows but I didn't have tons of space to go into much depth. But I gave a less-than-stellar review to Cross's stand-up. I wrote:
Probably the most famous name at the fest was David Cross, who gained mass appeal with his role as Tobias on Arrested Development, but his was a mixed bag. Doing standup, he's just an angry know-it-all who appears to hate his time on-stage almost as much as he hates his fans. Appearing last in the almost-three-hour Comedy Death Ray show, Cross insulted First Nations people and drug addicts before going on a seemingly endless–and humourless–rant about Mormonism, hemming and hawing his way through an ill-prepared set. But what a pleasure it was to watch him the next night in Match Game, where he smiled, laughed, and enjoyed himself, and in the SKETCH Show on September 22, also at the Cultch, where he was reunited with former Mr. Show partner Bob Odenkirk.
The thing about reviewing is you can only review the show you've seen, not the body of work. Re-reading my review above, I see that I shouldn't have used the present tense, because I don't think he's always an angry know-it-all. But I definitely thought he was for the two shows I saw him that year. That was my impression, at least, and I spoke to other comedy nerds who loved the guy but didn't at all like his festival sets. And, to be fair, I also spoke to others who did like his stand-up there. But I can only give my opinion when I review. I just try not to give cheap shots, say my piece, and move on. I also mentioned how much I enjoyed him during the Match Game and in his sketch show.

Well, Dave read my review and commented on it in his blog. Fair enough. Critics have to be able to take it just like they dish it out. I have no problem with that. To rebut my criticism, he wrote:
Hmmm, well, I don’t hate my fans, nor do I hate doing stand-up. I’m sorry if I gave (or give) that impression, but as I said, I genuinely like doing it. That’s why I flew to Vancouver for the shows. And I actually like it when people like my act. Not too surprising really. I certainly don’t do it for the money. 7 shows for a thousand bucks total is not very lucrative. I made more money middling at “The Laugher’s Den” in Made-Up-Town, New Hampshire. It’s true though; I did insult drug-users, specifically heroin addicts. So, sorry junkies. Also I did insult a “First Nationer”, or “drunk Indian” as I called her. It was after she stood up in her chair, and yelled out that she didn’t have a TV to a rhetorical question I asked. Then, I guessed that she was a drunk Indian, which it turns out was correct. She wasn’t insulted (at least not then – she waited for me after the show to drunkenly apologize in a drunk Indian way). I then talked about drunk Indians for a minute. I am not angry about drunk Indians at all by the way, I find them adorable.
That was his take and it's good he clarified that he does, indeed, like doing stand-up (or at least doesn't hate it) and likes (or at least doesn't hate) his fans, and he's sorry if he gave that impression. Good to know. Seriously. Who knows, he could have been having a shitty week or whatever. Hopefully if I get to review him this year, I'll be able to give him a better review. Because, as I said, I really do like him.

As for his recollection of the drunk Indian bit, I think his memory is selective. He did the same bit twice. There were two different shows. One at the Comedians of Comedy at the Cultch and the second one at the show where someone yelled out at the Commodore. So he wasn't just reacting to someone in the crowd.

Anyway, here's what I didn't like about his rebuttal:
Here, from the same article is an example of the kind of humor Guy enjoys:

"Former locals Irwin Barker and Darryl Lenox got me all nostalgic about the good old days when we could see these two pros just about any day of the week. Lenox talked about his girlfriend's hippie parents, who served him porridge for breakfast: "I didn't even know that shit was real." And Barker, who's suffering from cancer, is still writing gems: "I bought the book France for Dummies because I've always wanted to see Buckingham Palace."

Well, there you go.

I didn't like it for a couple of reasons. No doubt he's never seen Irwin Barker or Darryl Lenox, who are great comics and well-respected by their peers, so he doesn't need to slag them by way of me. Now, I know he didn't overtly slag them; he just said I enjoy that kind of humour and his is different and he didn't offer any opinion. But we can all read between the lines. He probably just thought they were lame examples of jokes I gave but he should know jokes don't always translate well to the page. Sure, I could have done a better job summing them up in one sentence each, but... uh... deadlines. That's my excuse.

But the other reason I didn't like it is because he's doing some nifty editing. In that same review, I led by saying Paul F. Tompkins (who Cross certainly does know and like) was the highlight of the festival for me, and that Jimmy Pardo (another Cross crony) was another highlight. So they were also examples of the kind of humour I enjoy. And I even mentioned enjoying Cross as Cross in Match Game and as characters in sketch. So to slough me off as a guy who just doesn't get his style of stand-up isn't really accurate.

Still with Cross, I was reading an interview with one of my favourites, Doug Stanhope, the other day. It seems Stanhope might have the same impression of Cross that I had back in 2007:
With Bill Maher, I agree with the majority of things he says, and I hate him. He just comes across as so cunty, and smarmy, that curled up sarcasm … and too many guys on that side of the fence do that. That David Cross kind of delivery of, “I’m smarter than you,” not “We’re smarter than them.”
I agree with that notion completely and have been saying it for years, that just because I agree with a comic politically or socially doesn't make me like their comedy. As I said, I do like David Cross, although I get what Doug's saying here. But I feel exactly that way about Bill Maher. Yes, I agree with almost all he says, but I don't find him funny. I used to, back when he was a young comic on The Tonight Show.

It's funny because for ever I've been saying that Doug Stanhope is a guy I disagree with 90 percent of the time, yet find him hilarious.